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Chagigah 22

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Rabbi Oster Gemara Shiur

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We begin today the Gemara on Daf Kaf Beis Amud Aleph, six lines from the top of the Amud, where it says Mayika. So what we learned yesterday was the Gemara's explanation for the first halacha of the Mishnah that when it comes to Kodesh, you're not allowed to toivel one Keili inside another when by Terumah, we're not machmir that much. So the Gemara brought two reasons. Rav Ela said the reason is because we're afraid that the water won't get in properly and there'll be a chatzitza. According to Rava, he says no, that's not the reason. The reason is there's a gzeira. If you allow a person to put one Keili into another, he might take these little pins and little needles and put it into another small Keili which has a very small opening. An opening that's K'Shurei Feires Anoid, less than the two finger breaths of a person. That's the the gzeira. So the Gemara now will explain that there's an af kamina between these two reasons. So the Gemara Mayika Bein D'Rava L'D'Rav Ela, what would be a practical difference between Rava's reason and Rav Ela's reason? So the Gemara answers, Ikid Dinayu, the difference would be Sal V'Gargusni. If a person takes a basket and a gargusni, which is also a Rashi says a very big basket, which is used by the wine when they when they would press the wine, so they would the wine would be like a strainer to go through this basket. So he's using a basket or a very large basket to place Keilim inside, Sh'milo Keilim, he filled it up with Keilim V'Itzbilan. And this is how he's toiveling it in the mikvah. L'Man D'Amar Mishum Chatzitza, the opinion that says that the issue is toiveling one Keili inside another could be a cause that there'll be a chatzitza,

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  1. 0:01We begin today the Gemara on Daf Kaf Beis Amud Aleph, six lines from the top
  2. 4:19pit in the ground and it's less than 40 sa, and it's full of water, and
  3. 8:26kama?" What does this mean? The im lo tievel, if you did not tievel it, if
  4. 12:33be that it might be a chatzitza or that the hole might be too small and
  5. 16:40that should not see this so it should not become a problem in the first place
  6. 20:49tamei, so how could it save anything that it's inside from tumah? So it's not explained
  7. 24:53them. Even if we don't accept terumah from them, but we see that it it we
  8. 28:59ha'aretz is going to be eating this for himself, so there's no point in saying that
  9. 33:14to be an option to say that when you're going to borrow it, you're going to
  10. 37:25seifa in the end we were more makeil that when he goes to the mikvah, we

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