Kesubos 19

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The opening of this shiur, in Rabbi Oster Gemara Shiur’s own words — taken from the captions, so names and Hebrew terms may be approximate.

we begin the gemara today towards the bottom of yucatan with bay six lines up from the bottom of the ahmed tanu rabona this continues the uh discussion here in the mishneh which began the suggy of status explaining when adam come and bring a star or admiral being asked about this star what can they say about the star what do we trust them to say about the star so just again to review some basics about a star minute every star that's presented is acceptable you see these two signatures we trust it and we can rely on it but rabbanan instituted that a star must first be ratified there has to be a keem of a star or it's also known as a hand pick in order to accept the star without that we we look at the star as a piece of hospital like a piece of earthen where it's nothing so therefore if adam are coming to tell us about this the signature their signatures in a star so it really depends whether the star was already previously independently verified before they speak to us or they are the ones that are verifying their signatures right now if they're the ones that are verifying their signatures right now so then you have a concept of a pesha sahua pesh is there if they are the ones that are verifying this the authenticity of the star of their signatures in the star so then they could also be believed to tell us under what circumstances they signed it sometimes i mean they might have discussed it before not always but if the showers already independently verified so then they can't come and tell us anything about the stock the star is considered to be a full testimony and they can't come and contradict that or change that

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1. 0:00we begin the gemara today towards the bottom of yucatan with bay six lines up from…
2. 3:48to sign this against their will some threatened to kill them or again they were katan…
3. 7:51avedas and the mother continues to the husband now that they signed the star after life…
4. 11:35better what is the statement that he said when a person admits the lava that is…
5. 15:48him so the case over here is that it's the aid of themselves that sign this…
6. 20:07really the case over here is that it's the adam that are saying that this child…
7. 23:50appease someone and then we have a star that was actually written and it was it…
8. 28:00to he had to write the star so why aren't aiden believed so rashi and traces…
9. 31:40now signing a star where there was a maidah and the seller was a highness he…
10. 35:53how could you say this if you're telling me that we trust this one that again…

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