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Rabbi Oster Gemara Shiur

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We're beginning today the Gemara on Daf Nun Beis, seven or eight lines down from the top [snorts] of the amud where it says davok, the beginning of the line. So, the Gemara was talking about birds that bump into something and fall. Whether this is similar to the case of the Mishnah where an animal that was on a rooftop fell and then there's a shash for treifa. So, the Mishnah The Gemara brought before different cases, so the Gemara continues here bringing additional cases. Davok, if it's a case where there's a trap that's made for a bird. What's this trap? They put up a board where the birds fly and there's something sticky on it and the bird sticks to the board and tries to get off and then it falls. So, Rav Ashi shodi. Rav Ashi says these birds that fall from this trap, it's allowed there's no issue of treifa. A Maymar osser. However, A Maymar says that it's osser. So, the Gemara explains exactly on what case they're arguing. So, there's two versions here. The first version is b'chat gapi. If the bird got stuck to the board with just one wing, the kol alma lo pligi d'shodi. Nobody will argue that when it falls, it'll be allowed because the bird is trying to fly off with uh its wings from the board, but one wing is stuck. But even when it falls down, there's still one wing that was not stuck. So, it doesn't fall down with such a strong impact. K'pligi b'trei gapi. The argument is if the bird got stuck to this board with both wings. Some and all say their opinion that says that it's not allowed, A Maymar omal lo tell you heiche naichem. How should this bird be able to move and lift itself up that it shouldn't fall

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  1. 0:00We're beginning today the Gemara on Daf Nun Beis, seven or eight lines down from the
  2. 3:45So, that's twenty two. So, in order for it to be a majority it has to
  3. 7:24just slice it in half. That's not an aveila, that's not only a treifa, that's mamash
  4. 11:39if you're going to count six on one side from the head of the animal and
  5. 15:17that even if one is uprooted it's kosher. But we am alone treifa, but if he's
  6. 19:28vertebrae is missing, that's what makes it a treifa. Not when the rib is uprooted. Cuz
  7. 23:06So, the Gemara's answer is we could learn this out from what it said in the
  8. 26:41regarding a larger animal, if it attacks it, it's also a drusa and will be treif.
  9. 30:47kind of here in the braces says. The Tanya because we learned in a braces baby
  10. 34:27but actually hold that it doesn't matter anytime a cat attacks a goat or sheep it's

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