Zevochim 5

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The opening of this shiur, in Rabbi Oster Gemara Shiur’s own words — taken from the captions, so names and Hebrew terms may be approximate.

begin today the three lines down from the top of the where it says was lying. Okay. So this is a gum that we'll discuss the point of the first Mishna that when one has a regarding most carbonus besides the and the pes the carbon itself remains you continue being m the carbon but it's only for the owner that brought the carbon for his obligation that he's not and he has to bring another carbon so the was lying on his stomach in the in the bis which is an interesting thing that he's lying there that give Muslim about this but he was in this position and he asked a question about this if this carbon even after he had the continue bringing it as a carbon so if so then the owner should also get his atonement it should work for his that he has if the carbon does not bring It's atonement for the person. So that means that the carbon is not effective anymore. So then so then why is it being brought? That means that the carbon is not effective. So that basically should mean that the carbon is ple in the mafar it says that the main question of is the second part of what he's saying. He's asking like what the main question he's asking is from the fact that you see that the carbon has no effect. What's a carbon? A carbon is just a physical thing that you bring a mak. The whole point of the carbon is the fact that it brings the kap or the it it's of the person if it can't do that anymore. So

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1. 0:01begin today the three lines down from the top of the where it says was lying.…
2. 3:20but now it's the carbon that she did not bring yet the cannot bring if she…
3. 7:02we now understand what's the reasoning for's opinion by the carbon we find such an example…
4. 10:09so then this pic is not going to be a good source. Why? Because a I…
5. 13:57be totally kosher even for the owner himself I can't use this it's not it doesn't…
6. 17:44owner I compare the learn from these two it's also another carbon the carbon itself will…
7. 21:05says answers that the reason why we compare the asham to these carbonis is not because…
8. 24:49mamish's carbon itself. But nevertheless you see that it's going to be used eventually for a…
9. 27:55it doesn't work. So if so I should say by the asham as well who so…
10. 31:37that point It still remains in the status of that's what you learn from this word…

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