Menachos 106

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Again, today the Gemara on daf kuf vav, nine lines down from the top of the amud, where it says, "Am alei daf kahana l'rabbashi." The Gemara here is discussing now the case that is said in the first mishna in this perek, when a person says, "I specified a specific carbon mincha to bring, but I can't remember which one this is." So, the mishna says that in such a case, there are five types of minchas in the Torah. The soless, machvas, maraches, and then two types that are mafitan or baked in the oven. The chalos and the baked in the oven. The chalos and the kikkar. So, if he doesn't remember what type of mincha he said he would bring, so he has to bring all five in order to cover his neder. So, the Gemara now has a question on this. Nine lines down from the top of the amud, kuf vav. "Am alei daf kahana l'rabbashi." So, Rav Kahana asked Rav Ashi about this din. "V'ha ikka l'sfuqa b'minchas nesachim." There's another kind of mincha. There's a sixth option that it's possible for a person to donate. And what is that? Minchas nesachim. Which is a mincha that is brought Which is a mincha that is brought together also with wine. Minchas nesachim is usually the carbon and when you bring a carbon of an animal together together with the mincha of the animal, you bring also a mincha that's made of flour, oil, and then there's also wine. You could also donate that privately. So, that's a sixth option. So, when the person says, "I made a donation of a mincha, but I don't remember which one it is," why aren't we including this option as well, that he should bring this? Amar Rav Ashi, Rav Ashi said, we learned earlier in the mesechta, "Mishum adam adam minchas nesachim b'chol yam." A

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1. 0:00Again, today the Gemara on daf kuf vav, nine lines down from the top of the…
2. 4:05made. Therefore, he only has to bring the five regular types of minchas that are mentioned…
3. 8:08remember which type of mincha. There are five types and he doesn't remember which one of…
4. 12:11you make a donation to bring a mincha that let's say you made a donation of…
5. 16:17fistful is. Normally, he says, "The The now Where the hand comes now, what he's taking…
6. 20:21nedava. But if not, you're not being over on the lav of burning something on the…
7. 24:25from the same vessel cuz then you're going to have the problem there's a lav. You…
8. 28:29large mincha for the original vow which is 60 issaron and therefore requires only one log…
9. 32:36because it's more bigger animal, more more sacrificial parts in the mizbeach. But over here since…
10. 36:42term carbon regarding it. No, it's a real full fledged carbon with all halachas of a…

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