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Bechoros 23: When Rav Was Sleeping

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Rabbi Yechezkel Hartman

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in Shas, Maseches Yevamos, Maseches Bava Kamma. Every time Rav Shishess is the one speaking about Rav. And we'll come to repeat over here where we spoke about Maseches Bava Kamma about this Indian. And what Shas that Rav Shishess comes and says such a loshon about Rav? He was sleepy when he said what he said. So Rav Chaim in Siman Kuf Mem Beis, he goes there to explain the loshonos that you find sometimes in Shas when it seems to be the one speaks about another Rav in not a very respectful way. So Rav Chaim brings this loshon kinayin v'shochin Rav and he says this is not a ginai, this is a shevach gadol u'muflag. Rav Shishess is saying according to the maila u'madreiga Rav, "Eev shalom olov shetov b'toch kaze." It can't be made a mistake. So kinayin v'shochin comes to say a zchus. He said something he was probably not focused so much. And he adds that it doesn't say kishochiv nayin, but kinayin v'shochiv. So he brings the Tosafos in Maseches Yevamos that says there's two two types of tnuma. One in the beginning of the sleep and one in

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  1. 0:32in Shas, Maseches Yevamos, Maseches Bava Kamma. Every time Rav Shishess is the one speaking about…
  2. 1:02v'shochin Rav and he says this is not a ginai, this is a shevach gadol u'muflag.…
  3. 1:34the end. So here we're talking beginning of the sleep. That means he just went to…
  4. 2:08the Godol Hamorai. Because Rav is Rav Abba in the safer Zohar who was a talmid…
  5. 2:39short but the the Divrei Tehorah says in more in long that you know it's it's…
  6. 3:11So may the both him and Rebbeinu and the Divrei Tehorah were saying the same idea.…

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