Tisha Beav: Conversation btwn Philosopher Plato & Prophet Yirmiyahu Broken gentile Vs Optimistic Jew

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The opening of this shiur, in Dr. Jack Cohen’s own words — taken from the captions, so names and Hebrew terms may be approximate.

[Music] there's a curious account set in the aftermath of the qurban an exchange between two very opposite figures plato the celebrated philosopher [Music] soyumiyah sitting on the floor yamaha was lamenting and mourning the destruction of the beta miktash he engaged them in conversation plato discovered that this jewish prophet was filled with great wisdom and understanding so the greek philosopher asks a very simple question i see you're a wise and intelligent man a jew how could it be then that you sit here crying over the past what's the purpose the building is gone the temple temples are already burnt down and the matter is now behind you why do you persist in your sorrow what is to be gained from your mourning responded i can't answer or rather i cannot respond to your question because you as a gentile can never understand the answer apparently the act of mourning of the beta mitash is matter that can only be grasped by a jew we begin to get a clearer picture of what yahoo is trying to convey to plato there's no real way for a gentile philosopher even as intelligent as plato and as clever as he is to grasp the essence of a jew's mourning for the beta mikdash a may be broken by the challenges that confront him but when a jew cries he expresses a sentiment of longing and yearning meaning that when a jew cries and when a jew mourns and he's suffering his eyes on the future all the time that this can turn around whereas when a gentile is broken he's on the floor in the bowery he's done he doesn't see any hope for the future and so that was why you may always said to plato

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