The Lomdus of Rav Shimon Shkop In the Degree of Retroactive Efficacy of Hataras Nedarim

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without saying, if one of them was mimit, it's ineffective. If one of them is mimet, the the vow cannot be enulled. So regarding that last statement, the garra has a very simple question. If you need both of them to be made for it, obviously if one of them is mimit, the vow is not anulled. If you need both of them to actively enull it, obviously if one of them not only doesn't anul it but is mimid obviously the vow stands. The gar says to which the garra says one of them was me, one of them was mim and the one that was mid then went to to be on his affirmation. I would have thought what he established he's uprooting. We learn out that they are both sim together. There's a very important ram over here which we did not read inside when we were learning it because it's not one of the rans that are but the ram brings the question of the can't be in any interposition between one and the other something that prevents the uh the anulment for example an affirmation since at that moment he's not capable of being maf meaning the second guy when he makes an affirmation when he does a hakama he can't be made for it so then He's the first guy and okay that we explained when we learned the garra uh a number of lines down this is 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 lines down in the medium lines in the raan the ram brings the question of the rashbahal Why do we say the first anulment was after the person is on his from the beginning? Since the is that when you're made for another it's anold retroactively. So

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1. 0:31without saying, if one of them was mimit, it's ineffective. If one of them is mimet,…
2. 2:18can't be in any interposition between one and the other something that prevents the uh the…
3. 4:29she had the answer is you went to it retroactively it's considered like there were no…
4. 6:09Even though as long as you're not mater but when you are mig it shows a…
5. 8:19says by kaducian is a full the only thing is it can't be if you have…
6. 9:51See, the way I understand the round is my secution is strong. Elm, there's something in…
7. 11:54at the time originally something got in between them even though later on it was removed…
8. 13:28Mashadorim he quotes the garra. He quotes the raja's question. He quotes the ran's answer. He…
9. 15:31but by anulment where the anulment of one of them is weak. And if they can't…
10. 17:07mash. It has no significance. It's nothing. This is based on what said earlier. He had…

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