Can parents really save a rebellious child? The answer changes everything.

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So the Halacha Shulchan Aruch says, it's been cited in the Gemara, we have a kid who does not listen. He's rebellious and defiant. What did he actually do? Garnish. He took his daddy's credit card. He went on Uber Eats. He ordered a steak. He got some wine. And for that, you kill him? So the Gemara says, he will end up in a few years from now joining a gang, selling drugs, and people are going to die. If somebody is running in the street with a gun, you don't wait for him to pull the trigger. You got to kill him now. There's a problem with that. The Gemara in Sanhedrin Daf Perek says, "She ratzu Av u'Im al Yimchalu Maichlin." Mommy, Daddy come and they say, "We Maichlin. I forgive you." So you forgive him. So the Shem Mishmuel says, "I don't understand." But you're not killing him for what he did to the parents, for ordering Uber Eats and getting some wine. Because we determined that he for sure will be a murderer. So then if Mommy and Daddy come and they say, "I forgive you." How do you set him free? That's the

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1. 0:00So the Halacha Shulchan Aruch says, it's been cited in the Gemara, we have a kid…
2. 0:30There's a problem with that. The Gemara in Sanhedrin Daf Perek says, "She ratzu Av u'Im…
3. 1:03kasha. He answers like this. A klal should person could fall down so far in a…
4. 1:34that you're in. If he's connected to the shalsheles hakodesh, he's connected all the way to…
5. 2:05he's rebellious. You know what his problem is? Not what he did. He has a much…
6. 2:35It's possible that he can come back with teshuvah shleimah um kabbalas with full complete teshuvah…

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