Daf Yomi: Bava Basra 169 | Rabbi Shmuel Silber

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from the bottom so comes along and says you know I L shim in ,000 and I lost my even though again furnishes Witnesses and the witnesses say yeah we saw this document we signed this document onf of Ru we do not go ahead and write a second is this when it comes to a loan document because with a loan document we are concerned that if turns out that rubin's lying and he has two loan documents that gives him the ability to collect twice when it comes to a sale you can go ahead and write it however you can't write any guarantees so in other words so that you can write the document because again that only impacts the buyer and the seller but you can't go ahead and write any guarantees in that document which could adversely impact any other purchasers top says says no no no even even sale documents you also can't write logic he says so we're going to see this later on days holds that essentially what we call which means when you give over a document the person acquires the document and the person the transaction invests by simply giving over the document now the converse is true also which is if a person enters into an arrangement and then Returns the document he has the ability to reverse the transaction so for example if I give Ru I give him a gift and along with that gift I give him a document that says I'm giving him a gift if he takes once he takes thear he acquires the gift if he gives thear back ultimately again he effectively gives back the gift so therefore says even sorry even with a sale document we're not going to go ahead and write a second one why because we are concerned that perhaps the purchaser Returns the document and if he

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1. 0:30from the bottom so comes along and says you know I L shim in ,000 and…
2. 3:39the gift if it gives back the document the gift does not go back so now…
3. 6:52good after the ad character where they identify the piece of property that's going to be…
4. 10:05produce or could also be talking about a case of a purchase or purchase without a…
5. 13:22follows what do you see from here you see from here that in general we assume…
6. 16:32ruling so the says said to you need to purchase it from the purchaser without because…
7. 19:38the document in no way voids the transaction incredible incredible so we'll see more of that…
8. 22:51so holds ultimately again so so you could convey ownership of a document and by extension…
9. 26:05give it over to someone that person acquires the document and acquires all of the you…
10. 29:19that gift and then what happens Ru Returns the document to me see if you hold…

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