The Avnei Nezer on the Machlokes Ran & Ritva on Toivas Ha'na'ah {Daf Hashavua Iyun Sugya Nedarim 84}

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Okay, we have an unbelievable suga today. The suga is on the bottom of where the garra discusses the uh two cases at the end of the Mishna where somebody says can't get from me. So they could take youris against your will that shows is not financial is not does not have financial value is not mine. And then the next case of the Mishna is if you say I ask these and these then you don't give them the you give them to others that indicates is and they can't get h from you and the says it's not a question one opinion is one is because what's the if you steal your friend's teel and you eat it rebi says you got to pay him the value of the teel say Not in other words, let's take like this. Let's say I steal 10 lb of grain, but and I eat it. Why would I have to pay you back 10 pounds of grain? You don't own 10 pounds of grain. From that grain, you needed to give truma to you needed to give miser to a so I should pay you back only the value of the ken. Rabbi says, "No, I have to pay you back the says no, I only pay the what's is the ownership you have of the ability to give it to somebody. Is that financial ownership or not? Okay. So the first statement of the Mishna that they could force you to give them the chumus that is going according to the

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