12 Minute Teview of the Sugya of Yeush Shelo Mida'as Plus Part 12 of the Sugya in Abaye V'Rabba

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The opening of this shiur, in Rabbi Yisroel Roll’s own words — taken from the captions, so names and Hebrew terms may be approximate.

good evening i hope everyone is up is as well and enjoy the yantef okay uh because that it's been a while since we learned so i want to just kind of re re-uh revamp a little bit re-rehash the machoke that we've been working on this entire time especially since we have laid with us now i wanted to just pull everybody in so we were working on the following question which is as follows what happens if a person person a loses his object it has no cement on it the example we've always used is a bic pen they make hundreds of thousands of these if not more they all look the same there's no particular mark on it so there's no simmon on it so he loses his big pet now if he knows that he loses his big pen he's me ish immediately because he's me ish meaning he gives up hope from ever getting it because there's no way he's going to get it back first of all the finder has no way to identify whose it is second of all even if the finder would somehow manage to do that which is nearly impossible but he has no way of proving that he was the one who lost it right there's nothing in other words it's impossible to return it therefore he's miyai she gives up hope and therefore the finder can keep it right that's the halacha if there's no simmons the finder can keep it because the owner is miash now we had a mahlokis however between abayev which has been the the the mainstay of rasogya and that is what happens if the loser

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1. 0:01good evening i hope everyone is up is as well and enjoy the yantef okay uh…
2. 5:49that by the time you the finder finds it the owner already knows that he dropped…
3. 11:35you find something you find a big pen on the floor are you allowed to keep…
4. 18:04and then their dead carcass that means of the shruts and the dead mouse's carcass touches…
5. 23:59as long as he was happy and it was still wet from the dew and he…
6. 30:19beginning you don't say that again the price is clear that he has to be still…
7. 36:14it that it seems that the way that the rav is explaining it it's that the…
8. 42:06shot rashi an email and i said rashi can you please explain to me what's going…
9. 48:29and if he doesn't put it on it's no good if it fell from the shamayim…
10. 54:20toma is different because it has to be similar similar to kihitain the halakha of haksha…

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