Daf Hashavua - Nedarim 86a

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The opening of this shiur, in Rabbi Daniel Glatstein’s own words — taken from the captions, so names and Hebrew terms may be approximate.

Okay, good evening everyone. Shalom aleichem, baruch haba'im. We're continuing maseches nedarim daf asher maseches nedarim daf pei vav. The Gemara's question is, how can a woman say that she asurs the hand her machshe'a dayen? The Mishna on pei heh mem alef said that if a woman says she'eini oisa al picha you don't need to annul. She'eini oisa al picha you don't need to annul. So what exactly why? Because she's meshubedes to him. And then the Gemara says uh the Mishna brought other opinions. The Mishna brought the opinion of Rabbi Yochana ben Nuri that you do need to annul because you might divorce her and she'll be asur. So that seems to indicate adam makdish davar shelo ba'al oilam. That's why you need to annul it. And the Gemara asks the steer because Shmuel also said halacha k' Rabbi Yochanan ha Sandlar. And first Rava wanted to say um uh Rabbi Yosef wanted to say that kein na'aseh are different because a person could asur peiros chaveiro al av. You could asur your friend's fruits on you, so maybe you could asur davar shelo ba'al oilam. And the Gemara says that's not a good analogy. And the Gemara says no, really ein adam makdish davar shelo ba'al oilam. And the case of the Mishna is where you said yakadshu yadai lo isayen cuz the her hands are in the world. So Gemara says and if she says this it's effective but her hands are meshubedes to the ba'al. So Gemara says when she says when I'm divorced then my hands should be uh sanctified. The Gemara says,

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1. 0:00Okay, good evening everyone. Shalom aleichem, baruch haba'im. We're continuing maseches nedarim daf asher maseches nedarim…
2. 1:33not a good analogy. And the Gemara says no, really ein adam makdish davar shelo ba'al…
3. 3:33case where I own the field now, and I have full control over now, and then…
4. 5:37my right now it's totally in my that's analogous to a case of where her hands…
5. 7:40analogous to somebody who says, the field I sold you last week I'm being mocked the…
6. 9:42case of the field I'm selling you now the light Damian to the camera like the…
7. 11:45as a collateral. So, that case the Gemara feels would work. So, the woman who's makdish…
8. 13:47similar to a case where somebody says, "I'm sanctifying the field for when I'm able to…
9. 15:51dummy is it similar Hassan kyats each Isha me is like it's a there it's set…
10. 17:56situation one day where you will have but the woman who has no control ever to…

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