The Great Yerushalmi Kugel Controversy - Mishna Berura Daf Hashavua Siman 168 Seif 14

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Okay, good morning everyone. Shalom aleichem, baruchim haba'im. Okay, we have uh we're going to we're up to in Mishna Berurah daf siman kuf sameach ches se'if yud daled. Let's revisit pasta for one more uh a few more moments. We we discussed what bracha l'ma'aseh is pasta. We have two de'os in se'if yud gimmel about dough that was cooked or fried. The de'a kama'i'sa, which is Rabbeinu Yonah and the Rambam, b'li'lasah avah that's cooked is mezonos. There's a machmir shita Rabbeinu Tam that if it starts off t'chilas t'chilasah avah, cooking it, it would still be hamotzi. Therefore, yarei shamayim should should wash first. So, we discussed what about a donut? Does that mean a yarei shamayim should wash on a donut? Um we did bring up the idea that the Um we did bring up the idea that the donut starts off as pas haba'ah b'kisnin because there's additives in the dough. Um because there additives in the dough, so it starts off as pas haba'ah b'kisnin it would be mezonos l'chulei alma. We mentioned yesterday from the Rama that the chumra of Rabbeinu Tam is only if it has to'ar lechem. If it does not have to'ar lechem, like lukshen or rumslach, according to everyone, rumslach, according to everyone, you uh you do not make hamotzi. So, yesterday we gave two reasons why pasta would be mezonos. First of all, if it's macaroni or elbows or spaghetti, when you cook it, it's less than a k'zayis. Each piece is less than a k'zayis. So, it for sure be mezonos. Are there Is there any pasta that you cook more a kazayis at one time? Maybe the lasagna pasta.

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1. 0:00Okay, good morning everyone. Shalom aleichem, baruchim haba'im. Okay, we have uh we're going to we're…
2. 2:04lasagna pasta. Okay. Even that, l'chumra, it does not have tire lacham. >> [snorts] >> Okay?…
3. 4:35So basically like this, what we're saying today is there are three reasons why pasta should…
4. 6:38Bagels is Sif Yud Daled. Chalut, scalded. Payrish Kamin Pas Chalut Inoisay Broisin. It's bread that…
5. 9:12He makes it in his kitchen. You when you cook it, then you dry it, and…
6. 11:14know what they're doing. They're makpid to have Yerushalmi kugel cuz if you have Yerushalmi kugel…
7. 13:51was about it about luck and Google That's why in America the whole new practice in…
8. 15:55And the Chazon Ish is masupak. The Chazon Ish says it's a safek d'oraisa whether you…
9. 18:28kugel is mezoinis. If it's just scalded, then Reb Elyashiv, I could hear what Reb Elyashiv…
10. 20:32>> No, it's not a 1-minute process. No, it's it's a it's a 4 to 5-minute…

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