A lecture on structured learning methods in Mishnayos, focusing on Maseches Shabbos.
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oh okay good so we've done a lot of ideas the first mishna right and and so you know and and um now if you apply if you apply what would M checklist right so you had what central idea the area of that central idea the number of statements what are the statements right preliminary preliminary ideas memory a memory a yeah ideas memory a memory a yeah great so what's the central idea of this first M right we actually yeah we were actually discussing that Rabbi Swiss and I good and seems like there's more than just the fact that there's no difference between seems to me that there's no difference between um uh there's more than the fact that there's no difference between whether you go in or out um whether you go from into to out out um whether you go from into to out from out to in in the direction of the right which is what we said last week that there was a big idea in this Mna that since um since is a so it's coming to there but it seems um and I mean it's arguable youan you know not everybody's probably going to agree but it seems like it's it's it's more laying down the assade of of of of of uh the essential conditions I know what you mean when lay down that is the that the direction which which is the initial which is the destination is relevant in all you go to Rob it's really irrelevant right that's clearly what it says right that's that's one thing that it says like like you just said it seems like more importantly is is to tell you the the essential conditions of of where else is it we know
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- 0:00oh okay good so we've done a lot of ideas the first mishna right and and…
- 5:12so to means which tells us that direction is irrelevant correct and it tells us that…
- 10:18irrelevant you know and the second thing is that there associated with according to the that…
- 15:23maybe is poor so therefore so for eon reasons they suspended the which means that the…
- 20:33the assumed maybe Parts preliminary ideas of this Mission yeah well I that's why I said…
- 25:41too brief but today there's so much good stuff out there the for that deal with…
- 30:49inserting a growth object into I mean not the key point the primary where is the…
- 35:59subtle so so what's a TOA I'm sorry you have to get the list you have…
- 41:04have four different types within the concept called essential conditions so you have that then you…
- 46:16in on the word you know just the saw forms that'll jog my mind to say…
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