Can an Evil Person Kill Someone If God Didn't Decree It?

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The opening of this shiur, in Rabbi Yitzchak Botton’s own words — taken from the captions, so names and Hebrew terms may be approximate.

there are two opposing forces one is what we call bachiro you have free will your free will makes you a free agent according to kabulistic teaching hashem withdraws his knowledge or retracts himself to give you space in which to operate so you can operate in fact arizona says that's in fact the deepest resolution of the question of hashem withholds his knowledge the point is he lets you operate in the world now one of the areas of your operation is what you do to other people and that's where we have a problem because on the one hand we believe you're a free agent within certain certain parameters on the other hand there's ash means hashem is overseeing controlling dealing with individuals in terms of what they need or deserve i see some blank faces let me give you let me make it extreme mr a is walking down the street mr a has ash hashem is being much on him is is uh dealing with his life in terms of what mr a needs deserves surely we believe that right you're not you're not afraid you're not a leaf blown in the wind what happens to you is directly or to put it in authentic torah terms there's a zero minus there's a decree heavenly degree we're not talking about hashem's knowledge today that's that's a much higher level we've come at a decree there's a decree in heaven whatever that means and why we need that is a discussion governing what happens to this person so let's say this person's walking down the street and you choose to interview hashem at that moment

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7. 35:19could be overwritten what are you talking about god never decreed it and he's dying how…
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