Why Do We Say Wine Before Kiddush? | The Shiur with Rabbi Segal

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The opening of this shiur, in Rabbi Peretz Segal’s own words — taken from the captions, so names and Hebrew terms may be approximate.

[music] >> We're on coffee or donuts and we've discussed the macaroons between base Shaman base tailor in regards to what is the order of events when you have your wine in front of you and it's the first glass of wine do you make kiddush first or do you make bread bread or coffee first? And there's a dispute. They shall I say you go for kiddush, go for the best and say yum and then you make bread bread or coffee and bake it. I guess and they say exactly the opposite. You first make exactly the opposite. You first make bread bread or coffee and then you say kiddush. And the question is why? And just an interesting aside. When you think about learning and you think about that most of the learning that we do is characterized by the speech. So there's obviously the basic reason is that people have got different perspectives. But the way that our brains work is we But the way that our brains work is we find it very difficult to operate within isolation. We cannot see things within a vacuum. The way that we're able to grasp things is through contrast and comparison. Contrast and comparison meaning if I ask you the simple question is this room light or is this room dark? It depends on your point of comparison. If you're just been exposed to incredible sunlight, this room is dark. If you just

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1. 0:01[music] >> We're on coffee or donuts and we've discussed the macaroons between base Shaman base…
2. 4:05If it's an effect, it should be listed second, done second. If it's a cause, it…
3. 8:12And I mention no one in particular, but there are individuals that consume copious amounts of…
4. 12:47Why? Because without the day being holy, there would be no wine. It's causal. The day…
5. 16:56Beis Hillel. Yes? Yes. Says the Gemara I'm going to skip two. Um the first one…
6. 21:35crying out loud?" Clearly, the author. And therefore, the author has the prerogative to to describe…
7. 25:41Now, in the context of Torah, that seems absurd and ridiculous. Because ultimately, the goal of…
8. 29:52What you see is that on the on the more general sense, you see the thrust…
9. 34:59difficulty. The difficulty raised was why can we so easily dismiss the bath call of Rabbi…
10. 39:37is that a proof that he doesn't agree to the bas kol of Elazar? It's completely…

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