Tisha B'Av - The Incredible Halachik Ramifications of the Story of Kamtza and Bar Kamtza

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already, let me stay. I'll pay for my meal." He says, "Get lost." "I'll pay for half the whole cost of the whole seudah." "Get out of here." "I'll pay for the whole seudah." "I don't want to look at you." He said, "Well, the rabbis are sitting here and they're not saying anything and interfering with the fact that I'm embarrassed. I'm going to go tattle on the Jewish people and that's what precipitated the korban." Now, does this mean that the whole korban happened because of this story? It could be that this story is just symptomatic of the general lack that Klal Yisrael had at a time in the area of ahavas chinam or it could be this story was in fact the straw that broke the camel's back. But, what I want to point out is that in the sefer Minchas Asher, the sichos of Rav Asher Weiss on page Reshus he brings three very interesting halachas that are actually learned out from this particular incident. Number one, he quotes the Shaarei Teshuvah in Orach Chaim in siman shin gimmel where he brings that it is because of this incident that they enacted that when a the shamesh invites people to the seudah, he needs to read off the guest list instead of sort of by memory to ensure that something like this does not happen. So, this is not just a story in aggadata, but based on this aggadata, actually a halacha was enacted. Number two, there's an amazing Sfas Emes in Pesachim peh vav amud bais That because of this story, the rabbis made the following takana. The Gemara says, "Kol ma she'omar l'cha

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1. 0:30already, let me stay. I'll pay for my meal." He says, "Get lost." "I'll pay for…
2. 1:00Klal Yisrael had at a time in the area of ahavas chinam or it could be…
3. 1:33they enacted that when a the shamesh invites people to the seudah, he needs to read…
4. 2:05ba'al habayis, asei, chutz mitzei." Pesachim, peh vav amud beis. We all know that Gemara. When…
5. 2:35the simple pshat is cuz when he tells you to leave, he's not the ba'al habayis…
6. 3:05ba'al habayis, asei, chutz mitzei." And then finally, a very interesting halacha in Shulchan Aruch, Orach…
7. 3:36Says the Mishna Berura, sif katan peh ches, it's a cherem d'Rabbeinu Gershom that you can't…
8. 4:06Gittin, meaning the Mishna Berurah is saying the pshat in the Rabbeinu Gershon is based on…

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