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Hearing a Beracha Acharona from Someone Else When You Have Eaten Something Different

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Rabbi Yosef Gavriel Bechhofer

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[music] >> The Shulchan Aruch in Siman Reshu Daled brings down from the Birkei Yosef that if say you had two people at a kiddush, one had wine and cake and has to make a bracha achrona me'ein shalosh al hamichya u'val pri hagafen, and the other just had cake and only needs al hamichya, the person who only had the cake can't fulfill his obligation by shomei'a koneh by listening to the person making al hamichya u'val pri hagafen. The fact that the person made the bracha adds on the extra words the bracha adds on the extra words doesn't make a difference, he still fulfills his obligation. Of course, he should only answer amen after he hears the full bracha. He shouldn't answer amen after al hamichya, even though he only ate cake, cuz he's answering amen on the full bracha, not just on what he needs to fulfill his own personal obligation. Rav Zalman Auerbach in the Sefer Shulchan Aruch has a fascinating uh nuance to this. Says, let's say one person only had cake, and the other person only had wine. So, the person who had the cake can be motzi,

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  4. 1:33reciting it. Shomei'a koneh, listening, is as if you're saying it. By the way, in the…

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