Rabbi Dr. David Gottlieb - Jewish Philosophy: Questions and Answers - 20

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The opening of this shiur, in Rabbi Dovid Orlofsky’s own words — taken from the captions, so names and Hebrew terms may be approximate.

yeah how do we define how would you define torah before there was that torah given at sinai before olam as a whole because i heard that god looked into the torah and then created the world and also what would we call if we would call it torah during the time of adam and papa and also during how does it change from then to abraham okay the word torah has has many different uses even our times even our times it has many different uses you're right to ask in whenever the word is used you have to check the context and ask yourself what is it talking about now when you're going back let's say before the creation of the world the word torah refers to god's plan for the creation and it can be associated with the text of khush that wouldn't be a terrible thing to do to think of it as associated with the text of the of the hamish text of the of the hamish and when it says that he looked into the torah and created the world it wasn't because without notes he might forget this and that and get it in the wrong order so he has to keep notes to make sure he doesn't make mistakes but it means that the world was created with the torah in mind and that it was created in order to make the torah express itself now i'm just going to take a couple of minutes to insert a very important point here this has this simple idea which people

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