Q&A: Is Saying God Needs US Heretical? Kabbalah Secrets, Philosophy & Why God Created US

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The opening of this shiur, in Rabbi Yitzchak Botton’s own words — taken from the captions, so names and Hebrew terms may be approximate.

is it heretical to believe say or teach that God needs us because I've seen classes online that say yes yeah yeah are both opinions valid or is only one right this is the great controversy about Rabbi Manis fredman who is extremely popular kabad speaker in fact uh the advertisement goes most popular Rabbi on the internet I feel I feel cheated but don't worry I'm not even near I'm not even near his numbers uh and um not even near his numbers uh and um Rabbi fredman almost has a mantra borrowing on the Eastern uh religion thing uh you know you don't need God you know God needs you God needs you and therefore uh you know you got to do your job so people like rosi you know attack Rabbi half of Rabbi mrai Shear is devoted to attacking Manis Freeman sometimes it's an amazing thing again this is all public so I I don't think there's lar involved and and uh M's argument is that God is perfect right it's really a that God is perfect right it's really a standard argument god is perfect God is whole God has no needs uh this is suim in the Torah anduk in the prophets that say you can't give anything to God and if you can't give anything to God all the mitzvas are just for us so how could somebody say that God is needy that's a contradiction to God's omnipotence so he takes the position that Rabbi Freeman is a heretic and aorus and and and the like well here is the thing um there may be an issue I mean again I I

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1. 0:00is it heretical to believe say or teach that God needs us because I've seen classes…
2. 3:40kind of a slave to my need God in that sense is not a slave to…
3. 7:14motivation of doing it out of love for him that's the highest service of so now…
4. 10:54needs us because you think that needing anything would be a contradiction to his Perfection because…
5. 14:30credibility and it helps the protect what they're claiming and they what they believe you know…
6. 18:02have put us in it perfect but what would that perfect world and our perfect status…
7. 21:37real understanding of who we are what we are why we're here and what Hashem wants…
8. 25:15affected by the actions of the people in this world good or bad if we do…
9. 28:48represented by the name yud yud k VK that level of uh of Mercy requires us…
10. 32:23that good there's a lot of good that's that's staying in the heavens that could potentially…

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