Historical Verification of the Torah - Part 2 - Rabbi Dr. David Gottlieb

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okay we're gonna start today with a review of what we did yesterday and to see if any questions have come up in the minds of those who were here yesterday and then we'll push on we are looking for adequate reason to believe that sine 90 is a real historical event not just a myth and we started by discussing what counts as adequate reason how much do you need to have in the way of evidence to say that you have adequate reason to believe and we noted that a very common thought is that adequate reason means proof and proof means absolute infallibility something that couldn't possibly be wrong nails down with absolute certainty and I recommend it that that's not the right standard one shouldn't look for proof not only with respect to Sinai or with respect to anything searching for proof is the wrong Criterion's wrong goal and that was for two reasons number one you can't prove anything if there's anything that contemporary philosophy agrees upon and there's very little the vast majority of contemporary philosophers agree that there's no such thing as a real proof even in math and in logic what we present as proofs could be questionable their disagreements about axioms and logic in philosophy mathematics and certainly in any other area of life looking for a proof is hopeless secondly when you live your practical life and you decide how to live you never have proofs that's not how you make decisions by gathering evidence discussing with people and making a judgment as to which option has the best

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1. 0:19okay we're gonna start today with a review of what we did yesterday and to see…
2. 4:28looking for adequate reason which means best support given all the available evidence secondly we started…
3. 8:43what kind of people are some people are known to be reliable and the reports that…
4. 12:49talking about throughout history that we have recorded talking about the reliability of this particular type…
5. 16:54beating the background and the priests chant there was a revolution there was a revolution the…
6. 21:28give us any examples where his scenario has actually produced a false entity no he can…
7. 25:33natural assumption that you would fail because he'll ask you how come we don't know about…
8. 29:40just tell you one verse 5 there after he makes the calf the golden calf he…
9. 34:11an interesting point I've never haven't put that image before it's worthwhile putting it yeah I…
10. 38:20absolute hostility so what kind of I still any canape well this thing is going to…

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