The Nusach Wars — Chasidim and Misnagdim Fight Over the Siddur 11 17 2025

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The opening of this shiur, in Rabbi Yoel Plutchok’s own words — taken from the captions, so names and Hebrew terms may be approximate.

Okay, so we're we're coming to the conclusion of our discussion about Nusach Hatefilah. Obviously, there's always much more to say. We're just uh scratching the surface over here. But, we've been building, I guess, to the point of discussing the the main main dispute in Nusach Hatefilah. And that's between the Chassidim and the Misnagdim. And that's the the the introduction of a Nusach called Nusach Sefard, which we've touched upon already many times in in the previous Shiurim on this on this topic on exactly what it is. But, we'll now we'll try to go through But, we'll now we'll try to go through it in a little more of a of a thorough way. Um and we'll see where this leads us. Now, so everybody knows that the Chassidim and the Misnagdim fought about lots of different things. But, one of the major most prominent flash points in the Chassidish and Misnagdish fight in the early days of the Chassidim, you know, the second and third and maybe fourth generation of Chassidim was about the Nusach HaSiddur, Nusach Hatefilah. Now, why is this? Because yeah yeah one way or another, the Chassidim introduced a new Nusach Chassidim introduced a new Nusach Hatefilah. Now, in a lot of the versions and the iterations that it started in and for sure the early ones, it wasn't that different from Nusach Ashkenaz regular. There's a few minor changes like um Baruch She'amar after Hodu instead of vice versa. We got Simcha Torah in Kaddish, um Av Harachamim Av HaOlam, and some minor, you know, variations here and there, but nothing too dramatic overall, by and large nothing too dramatic. And according to to most most, it really shouldn't make an Af K'fi Halacha, meaning I you should be able to be

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