R' Yitzchak Shifman | Taanit 12b - Kinyan Hamesechta

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okay let's get started we're holding 12 right there right [Music] there now let's just remember where we're up to last week we finished off with the mishna Mish told us that if the Jewish people had already been fasting the first set of fasts and they weren't answered means there wasn't yet rain so then the would decree a second set of fast days and if they were still not answered with those three they would decree another third set of seven more fast days and after that 13 total fast days they wouldn't decree any more public fast days what happened is they would accept more fast days perhaps on themselves till the end of Nissan but there was no more public Declarations of fasting now we said in the mishna the second set was more it was more strict in many different ways than the first set so just as an example the first set the fast only started in the morning the second set the fast started from Nightfall the night before the first set there was no of of shoes all these things the second set had those already one of the we said is they're not allowed to do work on the second set of fast days so the is going to ask the following question I understand you're not allowed to do washing anointing relations all of these things there's pleasure involved in them so you're making a fast that people should feel not so good so you stop those things but stopping work that's a pleasure it's a pleasure to not have work to not to do so why would the say you're not allowed to do and we're going to see this is actually based on a it's based on a as

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1. 0:01okay let's get started we're holding 12 right there right [Music] there now let's just remember…
2. 3:16was happening or a difficult situation and they decreed fast days we're about to see based…
3. 7:02call and then it says so just like's you're not allowed to do work also on…
4. 10:16minute but just hear it out for a second the third part of the we're about…
5. 13:57before then it says it says right those on those festivals right so just like there's…
6. 17:41Gathering was done in the morning so the fact that we're concluding that supports Run's position…
7. 20:50Rashi see it's about uh seven eight lash rashi like seven eight lines they would analyze…
8. 24:47second the whole morning they were involved in that's what it sounds like here okay the…
9. 27:55relate it specifically for the because that was talking time I'm going to tell you right…
10. 31:41that were there from afteron which means they were there hundreds of years before the general…

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