#633: Modim Derabanan (Part 3)

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The opening of this shiur, in Rabbi Efrem Goldberg’s own words — taken from the captions, so names and Hebrew terms may be approximate.

Citizens by the Saka family and by we're on the Bose explained it's called Dan because it is a composite of all of the rabbi suggestions in the of what should be said while the is reciting the amida. We pointed out the Abu Draam notes this is the only that even during while the is repeating we offer our own and as we said because you can't outsource you can't outsource gratitude each of us have to say it on our own also has like this vanos gives a different reason he says the other when we answer it's enough to show that we agree that we uh are subscribing to the same idea when it comes to modem if we were silent then it would look like we're unappreciative. If we're not actively involved, then it implies disagreement. So the best way to endorse what the kazin is saying when he's offering modm gratitude to hashem is for us to offer that gratitude as well simultaneously in our own formulation in modm durabon which begs the question the last topic before we dive into the words of modm durabon itself which is what is the proper way for the kazin to recitem should the kaz when he's up to modm just go forward straight direct should the kazin pause and let the seabour say their modm durabon before continuing The say quietly, silently to himself is of the opinion that there's no need. It's not necessary to wait. When the gets up tom he recites and the seabboard do their and the seabboard do their own thing. He writes which say it silently, quietly to themselves. They mumble, they swallow because the saying is critical. The Mishna rejects

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1. 0:01Citizens by the Saka family and by we're on the Bose explained it's called Dan because…
2. 0:31each of us have to say it on our own also has like this vanos gives…
3. 1:02simultaneously in our own formulation in modm durabon which begs the question the last topic before…
4. 1:34himself is of the opinion that there's no need. It's not necessary to wait. When the…
5. 2:34note that the first nine words are exactly the same. So the way modm begins when…
6. 3:08problem or even if in your own silent amida what if you said the wrong modem…
7. 3:38theme is the same the theme is similar and overlapping. Therefore, even if you said the…
8. 4:42their own. So the people who don't know how to d on their own are still…
9. 5:13have a principle that and even in the world of migillah even if it's the same…
10. 5:43elongated prolonged a through their own modem daban at the same at the same time. So…

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